JonT5
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2015-02-21T17:58:30Z
Hello all my name is John and last November I bought this boat that had been sitting neglected in a boatyard at Faversham for many years. It needed a lot of cleaning and some small repairs, which are keeping me busy. It has blue topsides and the grp mainhatch conversion. I have only just got hold of the sails so didn't know the number till now. Its name is RAMLOK II which I will change, but I would be very interested if anyone knows anything of its history. I understand that it was moored on the Crouch in Essex at Burnham untill being laid up ashore about 6 years ago. Fortunately the tabernacle came with the sails so the post of 21 days ago can now be ignored. However some of the cushions are missing so please contact me if you have any old original three inch ones tucked away in a shed, due to advancing years and creaking bones I only intend to use the boat for daysailing.
jalbery
2015-02-22T22:02:19Z
Hi Jon

I can't help you with answers to your specific questions but my boat is based in Faversham (I didn't realise there was a Seal for sale in Fav - is it Iron Wharf or Oare?). If there is anything you need locally, give me a shout.

Cheers

James


Morning's Minion, Parker 275, No. 1
Geoff Harwood
2015-02-24T10:45:57Z
22/87 Built in about 1973. Originally called Atlanta (or Atalanta depending where you look!) owned by D N Haines of Corfe Mullen who kept her in Poole. Then in 1978 sold to I L Roberts of Winchester still moored at Parkstone YC. Then Mr Roberts moved to Maidstone and moored at Chatham. Then D Savage of Folkestone from where she went off our radar till now.

Geoff Harwood

JonT5
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2015-02-24T18:24:34Z
Thanks Geoff, interesting that it has been in this area before. I need to make or get made a new rudder blade, did I see in a previous post that you have the shape/dimensions ? If not I have a copy of the August 2008 PBO article "Lighter rudder" by Tony Nield and will work from that.
Geoff Harwood
2015-02-26T14:43:04Z
Jon - I don't have drawings for the rudder blade but I do know where there's one under a shed in Sheringham! (brother in law used to have Sinbad Manana and changed the rudder for a Parker 21 rudder. A great success but 21 rudders might be hard to get now.)

Geoff

Floyd Raser
2015-02-26T23:02:36Z
I am very new here and feel very under qualified, but I am currently making a simple replacement rudder blade. I have produced a CAD drawing of the original blade, then modified it slightly and it is now with the person who will have it laser cut in 8mm steel plate. If successful I will make the drawing available to anyone who wishes to do the same, along with guidelines to get the cutting done locally.

I know there are better designs to be had but I don't want to get too involved in the science.

I have added a small extension for the up haul to get a better angle of pull, and hollowed out the blade for a sandwich of foam and plywood but the design could easily be reverted back to a straight replacement.

I'll report to the forum when I get the blade.

Floyd

JonT5
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2015-02-28T17:54:24Z
Thanks Floyd, very useful drawing, what is the total distance top to bottom and have you got this from an original blade. I am thinking of making mine with vertical strips of mahogany, but adding 25mm to the front edge for balance as described in the manual and reducing the length.

John

Floyd Raser
2015-03-02T01:05:32Z
John,

I'm pleased if some of this is useful. I have worked from the original blade from my Sinbad which is sitting patiently on a cradle in Woodbridge. I am in deepest Leicestershire and brought the tiller, stock and rudder blade home as the latter is corroded and bent.

The blade is 1210mm or 47 3/4"inches high and weighs 21kgs or 46lbs. Well mine does anyway! If you have tried to scale it up from the previous drawing it will come up around 50mm short. That will be corrected.

I took a photo of the blade, imported the pic into a CAD drawing and traced around it. Then I measured the stock and drew that too, with emphasis on the relationship between the pivot hole and large radius. When I overlayed the stock and blade they didn't fit! :-(

Not a problem, I just played around with the blade drawing until it did. To prove it I printed the top part of the blade drawing at 1:1 to make a template and cut it out of 3mm ply (an old draw base, every one has one in their garage don't they?). I drilled the pivot hole and it fits!

But the proof of the pudding and all that.... I could end up looking rather silly now if the laser cut item doesn't fit!

Still, I have plenty of time to think of excuses and a large hammer to adjust it.

I too thought about adding a bit to the leading edge but as the attached drawing shows, (if correct; maybe someone else could confirm?) there is already a little in front of the pivot line. The writer (page 13 of the manual) seems to intimate there is none as standard. I read in a Googled article that too much can have an adverse effect so as a novice, I'm bottling out of that one. The pivot detail on the drawing is not thorough; just indicative, but the dotted line is clear enough.

My goal is to get the boat sailing first with a few compromises between time and mods. I dream that one day I may even be experienced enough to tell the difference between a good and bad rudder!

Floyd